Global Governance Zionism Pt 8 - Jerusalem Old City Initiative Falls In Line With Barack Obama's White House -Jerusalem Will Be Just Jerusalem

Jerusalem Is Just Jerusalem

Moving towards a global regime in Jerusalem is falling in line with Obama.

If only a New Regime would prove incorruptible and a New Peace in the Middle East could be guaranteed.

Only an enclave of European and American illuminists will herald the new stage for mankind.

And who will embrace it?

"Let Jerusalem Be For All!"

And the dancers and the entertainers will begin a global parade into dark bellows ...


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Global Warming Skeptics ARE Holocaust Deniers???? Sir Paul McCartney Regresses To Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds

"Sir Paul McCartney just can't let it be.

The former Beatle predicted in an interview that the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico might expedite a move to cleaner, renewable energy sources in the world.

Sir Paul could have stopped while he was ahead, but McCartney went on to compare people who don't believe in global warming to "those who don't believe there was a Holocaust."


QUOTE ME HERE PEOPLE:


Paul has found Global Warming's Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds and his LSD Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band days are not Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite, or for you or me.


Sir Paul, is Fixing A Hole in the ozone in his head With A Little Help From His Friends at the Holocaust Thought Police Club of Brussels and he fervently believes humanity is Getting Better all the time with the symbiotic Kabbalah Gaia Within You Without You.


But for the rest of us Lovely Rita meter maids our Good Morning Good Morning is just A Day In The Life as the cataclysmic event of the Deep Water Horizon explosion is downplayed. So please excuse me When I'm Sixty Four, IF our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ has not taken her Bride by then, we know VERILY VERILY She Is Leaving Home soon.


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The Re-making Of The Future International, e.g. Global, Military - Germany

« German Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg announced plans to restructure Germany’s armed forces

April 12.

Germany: Defense Minister Seeks to Overhaul Military

April 15, 2010 | From theTrumpet.com

Germany’s defense minister has announced plans for a structural reform of the German military that would improve the effectiveness of the country’s armed forces.

Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg explained on Monday that the Bundeswehr is currently able to deploy only 7,000 to 9,000 of its 247,000 troops because the lion’s share of them are needed either at domestic posts or as relief for soldiers already on international missions. Under the new framework, the military would be streamlined, and more German soldiers would be freed up for overseas missions.

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Germany planning to reform its military

Associated Press 2010-04-12 09:31 PM

Germany is preparing a structural reform of its military that could free up more soldiers for international missions.

Defense Minister Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg said Monday a capacity of 7,000 to 9,000 soldiers for international missions is "certainly not at the upper end of possibilities" in comparison with other countries. The German army, or Bundeswehr, has a total of 247,000 active soldiers.

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Soros: Germany Needs to Pay Up if E.U. Is to Survive

April 15, 2010, 7:00 am

George Soros, the billionaire financier, says he thinks the euro and the European Union itself are at risk of breaking up if Germany refuses to play its traditional role and make concessions, Reuters reported, citing an interview conducted with Italian newspaper.

“The Germans have always made the concessions needed to advance the European Union, when people were looking for a deal. Not any more,” Mr. Soros told Corriere della Sera in an interview published on Thursday.


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Nuclear Israel Continues To Ignore Call For Middle East Peace: Third Party Intervention Inevitable

WORLD ASKS:

Why Does the U.S. Let Israel Get Away With Having a Nuclear Arsenal?

4-12-10


The Obama administration says it wants to reduce nuclear weapons, yet it goes along with Israel's evasions, blocking the path to a nuclear-free Middle East.


Thirty-eight heads of state are gathering in Washington for Barack Obama’s Nuclear Security Summit. But Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, is not among them. Israel is one of only nine nations represented by lesser government figures. The official reason, according to Israeli press reports: Egypt, Turkey and other Middle Eastern states “intend to exploit the occasion in order to slam Israel” over its refusal to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT).


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Global leaders, minus Israel’s Netanyahu, gather for Washington nuclear summit

Published 12 April, 2010, 16:32

Israel is apprehensive that some leaders at this week’s nuclear security summit will use the event to put the spotlight on the nationl’s undeclared nuclear arsenal.

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Israel Viewed As World's Sixth Nuclear Power: analysts

(AFP) – 2 days ago

LONDON — Israel, whose prime minister withdrew Friday from next week's US-hosted nuclear summit, is viewed as the sixth country to have acquired nuclear weapons -- a title it has neither denied nor confirmed.

Analysts at British defence specialists Jane's believe the Jewish state has between 100 and 300 nuclear warheads, putting them among the more advanced nuclear weapons states and roughly on a par with Britain.

The London-based International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) estimates Israel has "up to 200" warheads delivered on land-based short-range Jericho 1 and medium-range Jericho 2 missiles.

The Nuclear Threat Initiative, a US advocacy group co-created by Ted Turner, the founder of CNN, puts the figure at 100 to 200.

Israel is the only nuclear power in the Middle East with a programme dating back to the 1950s under Israel's first prime minister, David Ben Gurion.

It was developed with the help of France and is centred on the Dimona reactor in the southern Negev desert.

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Israel Must Be Part Of Efforts To Reduce Nuclear Weapons

Australia's former foreign minister Gareth Evans, co-chair of the International Commission on Nuclear Non-Proliferation and Disarmament, said Israel must be part of efforts to reduce stockpiles of nuclear weapons around the world.

Evans said there was a double standard in the way the Israel was treated compared to other nations, such as Iran and Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), which have faced United Nations sanctions for their nuclear programs, according to the Australian Associated Press report on Monday.

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Towards A Jerusalem Global City State: Moving With The U.N. And The Arab Peace Initiative...This is Where We Pick Up Where Herb Peters Left Off

Reported here first, The Jerusalem Old City Initiative is gaining public prominence as all other peace initiatives are failing their diplomatic routes.

Jerusalem will be its own International City State.

And now, the UN has revealed its cards.

Jerusalem Is The Missing Peace.

But don't believe me, read it for yourself.

Jerusalem Must Be Capital Of Both Israel and Palestine, UN chief Ban Ki Moon says

www.chinaview.cn 2009-10-29 06:50:10


UNITED NATIONS, Oct. 28 (Xinhua) -- Jerusalem must be the capital of two States -- Israel and Palestine -- living side-by-side in peace and security, with arrangements for the holy sites acceptable to all, if peace in the Middle East is to be achieved, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon warned on Wednesday 10-28-09.

"This is the road to the fulfillment of both the vision of (the United Nations) Security Council resolutions and the Arab Peace Initiative, and the yearning for peace of people from all over the world," he said in a message to the Jerusalem International Forum in Rabat, Morocco, in which he stressed that the international community does not recognize Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem."

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VALIDATED! Judaism Discovered - The Book Of The Millennium

Judaism Discovered - The Book Of The Millennium

Thank you Michael Hoffman and a very warm and sincere CONGRATULATIONS for this life affirming essay, not only to yourself, but to all the beloved of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!!!!

NOTE: You will not find Michael Hoffman's Gigantic Christian Essay entitled Judaism Discovered at any Lifeway Christian bookstore, Mardel's or Family Christian Stores.

NOTE: You will not find Michael Hoffman's Gigantic Christian Essay entitled Judaism Discovered inside of any post modern Judeo-Churchianity church bookstore.

NOTE: You will not find Michael Hoffman's Gigantic Christian Essay entitled Judaism Discovered at any used book reseller. I promise you I've tried, but no one is ready to give up this treasure.

But, you can find it at his website located here.

In addition, what you will find is a detailed account of empirical critical investigation of the First Order. A defender of Christianity, Michael Hoffman de-codes the cryptic dis-information whose dysfunctioning nature has eluded, subverted and confounded Christiandom.

Do not be fooled. Yes, you will need to spend time reading his book. I got it in November last year and finished it in April of this year. The past several months since have been re-checking the sources cited. And, it was worth every page along the way.

Without giving away any juicy jaw dropping revelations from his well outlined essay, all I will say is this, "Wait until you read his book, MANY hidden treasures await you!".

I sincerely believe that Michael Hoffman has paid a great sacrifice to write his book. It very much reminds me of the parable in Matthew 13:45-46 of the man who paid a great price for a certain pearl, Jesus, Our Pearl. Few take this laborious road towards eternal riches, but we lay for ourselves a heavenly treasure when we do.

Thank You Michael - Johnny

I Condemn Thee Holocaust Deniers Thus Reels The See

Pope Benedict XVI. Plans by a breakaway sect to ordain more than 20 men as priests have been condemned by the Vatican. Photographer: Tiziana Fabi/AFP

Vatican Defied Over Rebel Catholic Ordinations

• Society of St Pius X plans to ordain more than 20 men
• Holy See condemns 'illegitimate' ceremony

A rebel Catholic sect is defying the Vatican by pressing ahead with plans to ordain more than 20 men as priests and deacons.

The Society of St Pius X, which rose to notoriety this year when it emerged that one of its members, Richard Williamson, was a Holocaust denier, said it would proceed with this month's ordinations in Germany, Switzerland and the US in spite of the Vatican insisting they are "illegitimate".

A statement posted on an SSPX website questioned whether, in an era of plummeting numbers in the priesthood, the Vatican was wise in attempting to frustrate the ambitions of men who wished to serve the church.

It also denied the ordinations were intended as a snub to Benedict XVI, who plunged the church into crisis when he reversed the excommunication of Williamson and three other SSPX bishops.

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Hidden Enchantment Of Scripture: A Popes View

Evidence of the rabbinic influence on Pope Benedict

"...some hermeneutical consequences are derived regarding the way to interpret Scripture, which can indicate still today the just path for a correct reading of sacred Scripture. It is a matter, in fact, of discovering the meaning hidden in the sacred text..."

Benedict XVI

"On John Scotus Erigena"

Wednesday General Audience, June 10, 2009

Michael Hoffman's Pin Point Accuracy

Global Unified Belief System Curriculum Receives Lifeline From The Lama

Dalai Lama Offers $100,000 to University Religion Department in Florida

Tuesday, May 26, 2009

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The Dalai Lama has offered $100,000 to help an imperiled religion department at a Florida university after receiving an e-mailed plea.

MIAMI — The Dalai Lama has offered $100,000 to help an imperiled religion department at a Florida university after receiving an e-mailed plea for a letter of support from a longtime acquaintance on the faculty.

"He responded with this astounding, astounding offer," said Nathan Katz, a professor in the Department of Religious Studies at Florida International University. "I fell off my chair."

The department is one of three at FIU slated to close in response to a $27 million cut in state funding to the public university.

Katz said he e-mailed the Dalai Lama's office last month after finding out the program was in jeopardy and asked for a letter of support.

FIU received a letter from the Dalai Lama's office this week offering $100,000 and his help fundraising to prevent the planned closure of the department.

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Ehhhh, To Hell With Gaza, Again Part 2

Reconciliation Elusive During Pope Benedict's Peace Trip

By Jerrold Kessel and
Pierre Klochendler
Updated May 25, 2009 - 1:03:26 PM


‘No church bell would cease to ring had the Pontiff said something about Christian anti-Semitism. The verbal stinginess also diminishes the impact of anything Benedict XVI might say about Palestinian suffering. Had he said what he needed to about the Holocaust, he could have said more to condemn Israel's systematic violations of the human rights of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.
—Tom Segev, author of The Seventh Million


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Benedictus XVI: A Hybrid Wheat

What Prophetic Scripture Comes To Mind Gentlemen?

Pope receives a wreath of a new hybrid strain of wheat named Benedictus XVI from Peres in honour of the papal trip.

Photograph: Ahikam Seri/Getty Images


Oh I forget Johnny, just drink your Brussels Belgium Blue Moon and get a life. :0

Pope Demands Control Of Holy Sites: Damn Right He Does

ALL ROADS LEAD TO

MODERNIST ROME

WITH
A ROMAN CRUCIFIX,
THE MAGEN DAVID STAR
AND
THE CRESCENT MOON,
MOTIVES
ARE BEING CONFIRMED.

Headline News

Monday, May 04, 2009 Israel Today Staff

Pope To Demand Control Of Holy Land Sites Long-standing Vatican claims to at least five Christian holy sites in Israel are expected to be near the top of the agenda when Pope Benedict XVI visits the Holy Land next week. Israel has long rejected the claims, but President Shimon Peres is strongly urging the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to turn the sites over to the Catholic Church in hopes of boosting Jewish-Christian relations. The sites include: The Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth; the Coenaculum on Mount Zion in Jerusalem, traditional location of Jesus' Last Supper; Gethsemane at the foot of the Mount of Olives; Mount Tabor in the Lower Galilee region; and the Church of the Multiplication which lies along the shores of the Sea of Galilee. Debate over future control of those sites is creating significant rifts in the new government, according to Army Radio. Click here for entire Israel Today article *** Vatican Sovereignty Plan Splits Israelis Dina Kraft, Tel Aviv May 5, 2009 The Coenaculum on Jerusalem's Mount Zion, one of the holy sites that may have control handed to the Vatican. Photo: AFP THE SOVEREIGNTY of Christian HOLY SITES in ISRAEL could be handed over to the VATICAN under plans drawn up by President Shimon Peres. The Church of the Annunciation in Nazareth, the Coenaculum on Mount Zion, where tradition says Jesus held the last supper, Gethsemane, Mount Tabor and the Church of the Multiplication on the banks of the Sea of Galilee are among the sites said to be included. Click here for entire article *** Vatican Presses for Possession of Jerusalem Sites May 6, 2009 | From theTrumpet.com And Israel’s president is helping. Tension is building between Israel and the Vatican over contested parts of Jerusalem ahead of Pope Benedict xvi’s visit to the Jewish nation next week. Negotiations between Israel and the Vatican have been ongoing for the past 10 years concerning the handover of sites in Jerusalem, including parts of Mount Zion, and elsewhere in the country claimed by the Roman Catholic Church. Reports in the Catholic media imply that these negotiations are nearing their conclusion. While Israel’s Foreign Ministry denies the reports, idf Army Radio says that President Shimon Peres is pressuring Interior Minister Eli Yishai to surrender six properties demanded by the Vatican. If the interior minister does not cave, staffers in the president’s office say, they will find some legal way to sign away the sites without Yishai’s approval. “Giving the properties away,” reports IsraelNationalNews.com, “means that Israel will not be able to pave roads or lay electricity and other infrastructures without Vatican approval.” Peres’s move to speed the handover of parts of Jerusalem to the Vatican is no mere whim. Peres has been Israel’s key personality involved in negotiations with the Vatican for going on two decades. Just three days before the signing of the Oslo Accords on Sept. 13, 1993, then-Foreign Minister Peres, together with then-Deputy Foreign Minister Yossi Beilin, signed a secret deal with the Vatican promising to hand over sovereignty of Jerusalem’s Old City to the Vatican, according to the Italian newspaper La Stampa. This deal was then included in the secret clauses of the Oslo Accords. Click here for entire Trumpet article *** Monthly subscribers are not shocked by the recent turn of events. Many things are not what they seem. To gain a different understanding of the complexity and ramifications of Global Governance, with a point by point analysis, subscribe to the monthly newsletter today! - Johnny

Catholic University Hides Jesus' Name While Obama Speaks

Georgetown University Hid Religious Symbols at White House Request

Georgetown University, a Catholic institution, covered up religious insignia symbolizing the name of Jesus during President Obama's address there Tuesday after the White House requested the change.

Israel As A Nation Since 1948, IS NOT A Fulfillment Of Bible Prophecy: John F Walvoord Explains

A MUST READ TO ALL

Pre-eminent Theologian

John F Walvoord

States The Case
of
Ezekiel's
Dry Bones Prophecy.

In today's Neo-Progressive Christianity, it is not surprising to see many believing in the prophecy sound bites of many popular "Christian" books, films and TV specials.

Especially of interest are certain perceptions of Israel.

IF, you have this book, cross reference in the index the following: "Israel", "As A Nation", "Restoration" AND THEN READ those chapters.

After reading Walvoord's evidence, you may see things from a different angle.

I agree with Walvoord.

Johnny

Division Of The Dry Bones: The Restoration Of Israel pg. 185-186

To Hell With Gaza, Let's Go To The Holocaust Museum First

In May Pope Benedict XVI is scheduled to visit the Yad Vashem "Holocaust" museum commemorating events -- both real and imagined -- that are 65 years-old, but not Gaza, the site of the Israeli massacre that resulted in the slaughter of 1400 Palestinians three months ago, including hundreds of Palestinian children who were murdered by the pontiff's "Holocaust" hosts. The hypocrisy is breathtaking. --M. Hoffman

The Pope’s Whirlwind Tour Of The Holy Land

Reuters | April 12th, 2009

by Ari Rabinovitch

The Holy Land is scrambling in its preparations for the arrival of Pope Benedict XVI, pouring millions of dollars into infrastructure and security. It comes just nine years after his predecessor, John Paul II, made his historical visit. He will be traveling from May 8-15.
More than 1 million Christian pilgrims passed through Israel last year, and the tourism ministry is preparing for a spike in that number around the time of the pope’s visit. The pontiff will travel with heavy security, sometimes on new roads built specifically for him.

Pope Benedict will begin his trip with a few days inJordan. He is expected to give a speech at the ancient basilica on Mount Nebo that overlooks the Jordan River and Jerusalem. Mount Nebo is believed to be where the Prophet Moses died. The pope will also hold a mass at the Amman International Stadium.

Yad Vashem — One of the pope’s first stops in Israel will be at the Jewish state’s memorial to victims of the Nazi Holocaust. It is particularly significant because of the controversy surrounding his decision to lift the excommunication of a bishop who denies the Holocaust. Pope Benedict later admitted the Vatican mishandled the affair. He will meet Jewish Holocaust survivors and attend a ceremony in the Hall of Remembrance, a common stop among visiting dignitaries. He will also plant a tree in a nearby forest.

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Both Michael Hoffman and Barry Chamish are ON TARGET about this event, although viewing it from opposite angles. Just a coincidence? You decide. - Johnny

Will Vatican City State Endorse Jerusalem City State For World Peace? You bet!

As many writers, such as myself, have been investigating and forewarning about the issue to propel the Old City Of Jerusalem beyond the status of a new Global-City State, it is also becoming clearer to many others. Ron Fraser is hitting the target. The question is will the mysterious third party be the visible Vatican, The European Union, The United Nations or will it be an invisible force. For your investigation, here's a clue. Go behind the Hermetic maxim "As above, so below". This carries much merit in this issue. - Johnny



Ron FraserColumnist

Vatican’s Hidden Jerusalem Agenda

March 16, 2009 | From theTrumpet.com

Why is Pope Benedict visiting Israel, and why right now?

Ron Fraser

This magazine has been watching Joseph Ratzinger for a long time. As we have watched, we have followed his course from chief confidante of the late Pope John Paul ii to his enthronement as pope and then on throughout the past four years of his controversial papacy.

As we have watched this leading religious figure, we have monitored his involvement in a clandestine project of the Vatican that was documented in Bible prophecy almost 2,000 years ago and which remained a mystery until fully exposed within the last two decades.

Now, as Benedict xvi prepares for his upcoming visit to Israel, the Palestinian territories and Jordan this May—a tour incorporating his first visit to Israel since being elected pope—it is crucial that the Vatican agenda for the city of Jerusalem be publicized.

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A Special City State, A Special Regime - Jerusalem Old City Initiative Debuts On CFR's Flagship "Foreign Affairs" As "The Missing Peaces"

The Missing Peaces have arrived.

“Old City, New Regime: Beyond Sovereignty”

"To resolve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, policymakers will have to develop a new regime for Jerusalem's Old City." - excerpt from "The Missing Peaces", Foreign Affairs, March/April 2009, Volume 88, Number 2

Authors:
Michael D. Bell is Paul Martin, Sr., Senior Scholar on International Diplomacy at the University of Windsor. He has served as Canadian Ambassador to Jordan, Egypt, and Israel.

Daniel C. Kurtzer is S. Daniel Abraham Visiting Professor in Middle East Policy Studies at Princeton University's Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs.


Documented here first at 51 Reasons To Say No To Global Governance The Old City Of Jerusalem City State Initiatives are clearly being defined at the Council Of Foreign Relations flagship publication "Foreign Affairs".


Originally titled in JOCI (Jerusalem Old City Initiative) Fall 2008 Winter 2009 newsletter, "Old City, New Regime: Beyond Sovereignty" this report non-nonchalantly cites the Old City of Jerusalem as the missing piece in the Mid-East peace process. Hence CFR's alluring "Foreign Affairs" title "The Missing PEACES".

Although the article envisions the Old City Of Jerusalem proposals as a "special regime...special autonomous governance regime...Old City Special Regime (OCSR)..." the tight wording cannot elude its message of its unique sovereign status propelling the Old City Of Jerusalem beyond comprehension into a global-state like status more than a Vatican City State.

And continuing on JOCI's commissioned studies the suspense thickens as an unknown third party will co-lead this new "regime/government/state/" alongside of Israel and Palestine.

"The involvement of an impartial third-party administrator -- chosen by the Israelis and the Palestinians together -- is essential, as it would build confidence between the two sides and reinforce it over time............a special autonomous governance regime with a strong third-party presence would be the optimal system for the interim management of the Old City."

This third party will undoubtedly solidify to the world, the political cornerstone of the new government in the Old City.

"Support from the international community, including a strong UN Security Council resolution, would strengthen that (its) legitimacy."

This New Old City of Jerusalem governance, as the centerpiece of the Middle East Peace process, will solidify into the minds of the world that peace is here.

"The benefits of peace for Jerusalem would be enormous. A peace agreement would bring recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of both Israel and the new Palestinian state: embassies would relocate there, new institutions would appear, and tourism would surge."

Let us have no qualms about it, the Old City Of Jerusalem City State Initiatives are moving Beyond Sovereignty.

For further reading:

Jerusalem Old City Initiative

Governance Discussion Document (Fall 2008)

Jaffa Gate Crossing Spatial Study

POD Cast of JOCI at The Middle East Institute October 2008

Pope Benedict xvi’s “Most Important Treatise Of All” Is Coming. Will You Be Ready?

Ron FraserColumnist

Benedict’s Papal Crusade

January 12, 2009 | From theTrumpet.com

In his State of the World address, Benedict returns to a timely crusading message for a world in crisis.

Ron Fraser

One year after Cardinal Josef Ratzinger was elected pope, the dissident theologian Hans Küng, a former colleague of Ratzinger, was asked by the Italian daily La Stampa for his views on the new pope’s achievements during his first year in office. The aging theologian commented that “the pontiff has proven to be a leader who ‘takes his time and prefers to make small changes that lead to bigger ones.’ But he said that Pope Benedict will continue to surprise observers, with ‘the surprises of a conservative’” (CWNews.com, April 13, 2006).

As Benedict xvi advances toward completing his fourth year in office, he continues to impress with “the surprises of a conservative” as he steadily continues on his unswerving course toward his ultimate goal of uniting Europe under the crusading cross of the religion of Rome. The underlying theme is his crusade for Roman Catholicism to become the singular great moral and spiritual force in the world.

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Prepared For A New Vatican City-Esque Jerusalem With Their Holy Sites?

Remember, 51 Reasons Reported It Here First!

Old City Of Jerusalem City State - "A Surprise Zealous, Rebel Entity" Is Coming!

The Arab Peace Initiative sees something much, much bigger succeeding other than a Two-State solution.

The Three-State Option

By John R. Bolton

Monday, January 5, 2009; Page A11
Washington Post

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An Accord With The Entire Arab World Would Be A Prize Worth Israel's Effort

With a Four-State problem impeding any two-state solution, the best hope for peace may be to make the stakes even higher

Wednesday 17 December 2008
Jonathan Freedland
Guardian UK

A United Religious Nations - Happy New Year!

Christen,Juden,Muslime - Wem gehört der Urvater der Religionen?

Jona Metzger, the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel: "When Abraham came, he saw the sun rising, setting and the world turning and he thought, who is causing all these to move?"

SPIEGEL INTERVIEW WITH RABBI YONA METZGER

'My Dream Is to Create a United Religious Nations'

Yona Metzger, the Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel, talks to SPIEGEL ONLINE about the Abraham as the father of all three monotheistic religions -- Islam, Christianity and Judaism -- and explains how that connection could be a starting point for a dialogue of peace between them.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Chief Rabbi, Jews refer to Abraham as "Our Father Abraham." How difficult is it for you to accept the fact that Christians and Muslims also call Abraham their father?

Metzger: This is not difficult at all. It fits very well with the Jewish religion. A close look at the word "Abraham" reveals that it is constructed from the words "father of many nations." So, if Muslims associate themselves with Abraham's son Ismael, or Christians associate themselves with Abraham's grandson Esau, or we associate ourselves with his other grandson Jacob, then three great monotheistic religions were born from him.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: What is Abraham's function in the Bible?

Metzger: The great Jewish philosopher Maimonides explained this very impressively. God created various objects in heaven. The sun, for example, or the moon and the stars -- they are all high above us. This was understood to mean that God wanted us to respect them more than the things which were created on Earth. Gradually things went wrong. Instead of praying directly to God, the people turned the objects into targets of their prayers.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: They worshipped idols.

Metzger: When Abraham came, he saw the sun rising, setting and the world turning and he thought, who is causing all these to move? There has to be someone above all these. So he essentially was saying: "You have stopped halfway. There is someone above these objects you worship! So why go to the ministers? Let's go directly to the king." And so he commenced a journey which touched many people. Together with his wife Sarah, he traveled from place to place and developed the philosophy of belief in one God. Slowly but surely many people gathered around him and today most of the population of the world is monotheistic: Christianity, Islam, Judaism ...

SPIEGEL ONLINE: ... 3.5 billion people ...

Metzger: Perhaps even more. I met with leaders of the Hindu religion, who I was certain were idol worshippers, but their leaders said they also believe in God -- it's just that they believe He has a way through the idols. And some Buddhists say that Buddha is only a worldview, and not a religious belief. We see that most of the world really follows the path of Abraham.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: But one gets the sense that the Jews think that they are the original and Christians and Muslims are only "copies."

Metzger: Well, from the historical perspective it was so. Jesus was a Jew. Subsequently Christianity came into the world and then Islam. These were the steps, historically -- not the other way round. When Jesus was in Jerusalem, he was not familiar with a church or a mass -- that is certain. He knew only one thing: the Holy Temple. After his time, the rest was developed by his disciples.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: But Christians stress that Abraham believed in God before he became circumsized and actually became Jewish.

Metzger: Abraham had no rabbi, no teacher. He was taught the law by his kishkes as we say in Jiddish, "from his own two kidneys." That is to say, he learned by himself and through himself. It is interesting to note that the Torah calls Abraham an Ivri, "a Hebraic."

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Is it important for you whether Abraham was a real historic person? Historians and archeologists have not found any clear proof that Abraham has ever lived.

Metzger: I believe that the Bible represents fully the true history of the world. If historians or archeologists find proofs, we are delighted, but we don't need them.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: When you look at the historical perspective, much blood was spilled in the name of religion. So how can a dialogue be conducted between religions?

Metzger: Look, Abraham specifically is very helpful regarding dialogue -- and I will give you an example. Once I had a meeting with an Iranian leader. He was one of the heads of the Ayatollahs. Initially he did not want to shake my hand, but eventually I turned to him and asked him: "Do you believe that your forefather was Abraham?"

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Ibrahim, as the Muslims call him in Arabic.

Metzger: Yes. Ibrahim. And he answered, "Yes." I said to him that I also believe that my father was Abraham. So I asked him, "Do you believe that our forefather would be pleased today -- up in heaven -- seeing that one son kills himself in order to kill his other son? Which father would delight in such a thing?" He did not have an answer.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: So Abraham could serve as a vehicle for dialogue?

Metzger: Yes. Even if you have a brother who you believe is not a good person and you think that the world needs to be Muslim -- do not kill! If you want, speak, put it on the table and be cultured. Like every father Abraham would expect that his children sit down at the table instead of killing each other.

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Can you give another example of dialogue?

Metzger: During a recess, in a conference which took place in Europe, one of the heads of the Muslim Courts in Jordan invited me to a cup of coffee in the lobby of the hotel. We sat for about half an hour. I began telling him about some of my problems; I told him about my family, my children, some issues with rabbis and the chief rabbis that are under me and the responsibilities I have. He told me about his problems. At the end he stood up, shook my hand and told me: "Now, after having told me all of your stories, and after I have told you all of my stories, I cannot hate you."

SPIEGEL ONLINE: Do you believe that religious people are better equipped to bring peace to the world?

Metzger: Definitely. My dream is to create a United Religious Nations -- just as there is the United Nations in New York. The diplomats did not succeed in bringing peace to the world. They need help. And this can come through religious language. Because a Muslim does not respect a person who is secular; he will only have respect if you are religious. This Religious United Nations would also include Hindus and Buddists. We religious people speak the same language.

Abraham's purported burial site in Hebron in the West Bank: Religious leaders believe references to Abraham, who is prominent in Christianity, Judaism and Islam, can help start a dialogue between the religions and help to stop a conflict of civilizations.

Interview conducted by SPIEGEL Middle East correspondent Christoph Schult in the chief rabbi's Jerusalem office